Talking
Comprehension
Dr. Frank Serafini
Associate
Professor – University of Nevada, Las Vegas
www.frankserafini.com
Myths Concerning Talk
Children Learn Best When They are Quiet
Teachers Have to Ask Questions to Know Who is Comprehending
Consensus is the Goal of Discussion
Students Know How to Discuss Literature
Socialization Through Language
Schools Teach ChildrenÉ
Ways of Thinking
Ways of Talking
Ways of Acting
Ways of Interacting
What Counts as Knowledge
What Counts as ÒCultural CapitalÓ
The Reading Workshop
A Primary Goal of the Reading Workshop is to Change the Way
We Think and Talk About Texts (Interpretive Repertoire)
Theorists & Researchers
Mikhail Bakhtin / MAK Halliday / James Britton / Lev
Vygotsky / Douglas Barnes / Neil Mercer / Martin Nystrand / Debra Myhill /
Robin Alexander / Courtney Cazden / David Westgate / Maureen Hughes / James
Dillon / Peter Johnston
Lev Vygotsky
Ideas and Thinking are Not Just Expressed IN Language, They
are Constructed THROUGH Language. Language as Psychological Tool
Mikhail Bakhtin
All Utterances are Responses to Previous Utterances and
Anticipate Future Utterances. Voices Refract One Another
M.A.K. Halliday
Two Functions of Talk
1. Ideational: Used to explain concepts, share ideas and
reflect
2. Interpersonal: Used to create and manage relationships
between people and communicate
James T. Dillon – Discussion:
A particular form of group interaction where members join
together in addressing a question of common concern, exchanging and examining
different views in service of enhancing their knowledge, decisions or actions.
Language:
Unites Cognitive & Social Dimensions
Is Used to Structure Experiences Between Teachers &
Novices
Is Used to Regulate the Complexity of Learning Events
(Scaffolding)
Creates Opportunities for Sharing Ideas and Interpretations
Allows Sharing of Cognitive Load
Is the Most Transparent Teacher Activity
Bridges Curricular Plans & Learning
Language Of Lessons:
Calling Attention to Cognitive Strategies
Explicitness
Explanatory Talk
Pacing
Objectives
Responses Used to Confirm
Language of Discussions:
Invitations to Think and Participate
Tentative
Exploratory Talk
Wandering
Possibilities
Responses Used to Extend
The Recitation Script (I-R-E)
Traditional Interactions
Initiate-Respond-Evaluate (Mehan, 1979)
Idealized Instructional Script
Default Setting
Residual of Experience - Apprenticeship
Authoritarian Discourse - Control
Transmission of Knowledge
I - R - E
Teachers Take Turns at Will /Teachers Allocate Turns to
Others
Teachers Determine Topics / Teachers Control Pace of
Discussion
Teachers Interrupt at Will / Teachers Pose Questions at Will
Teachers Endorse Particular Readings / Teachers End
Conversational Turns
Why is IRE So Appealing?
Control of Conversation Topics
Pacing of Lesson / Conversation
Assumed to be Effective for Learning
Classroom Management = Good Teaching
History - Years of Watching It
Images of Teachers and Teaching
Cover the Required Curriculum
Interactions
Bakhtin - Dialogic
Mercer - Inter-Thinking
Chambers - Shared Contemplation
Barnes - Exploratory Talk
Nystrand - Scaffolded Talk
Serafini - Co-Elaboration
Monologic vs. Dialogic
MONOLOGIC
Consensus
One-Way Exchange
Privileged Ideologies
Centripetal Forces
Mandated Participation
Find the Main Idea
Transmission of Knowledge
Display Questions
DIALOGIC
Diversity of Ideas
Two Way Exchange
Heteroglossia
Centrifugal Forces
Open Turn Taking
No Final Word
Suspend Closure
Inquiry Questions
Dialogue ÒBlockersÓ
Dominating Voices
Passive Participants
Lack of Time
Focus on Debating (Winning)
Seeking Consensus
Defensive Attitudes
Attacking Others
Not Listening
Robin Alexander: 5 Principles of Dialogic Talk
Collective - teachers and children learn and address issues
together
Reciprocal - teachers and children listen to each other, share
ideas
Supportive - children articulate ideas freely without fear
of reprisal
Cumulative - teachers and children build on each otherÕs
ideas
Purposeful - teachers steer talk with educational goals in
mind
Debra Myhill
Asking More Open Questions will NOT Change the Quality of
ChildrenÕs Thinking if They Think There is One Correct Answer (Hidden in the
TeacherÕs Head)
Initial Thoughts on Questions
Student Responses are Reflective of the Questions Teachers
Ask and The Expectations Set for Discussion.
Questions can be Confrontational, Rather Than Invitational.
Too often Questions are Used to Control Rather than Inquire
(WhoÕs Paying Attention?)
Who Gets to ask Questions is Reflective of the Power
Relations in the Classroom.
Types of Questions
Display / Rote
Process / Reasoning
Procedural / Expectations
Inquiry / Exploratory
Display (Pseudo) Questions
Serve as cues to narrow down student guesses to align to
what is in the teacherÕs head or is predetermined as correct
Are Inauthentic - Do Not Regularly Occur Outside of School
Privilege Knowledge of Teacher / Text
ÒOral Fill in the BlanksÓ
Develops Passive Students
Limits the Range of Acceptable Answers
Are Accompanied by Choral Responses
Strive for Consensus, Agreement, Correctness
When Display Questions Are Appropriate
Calling Attention to Particular Ideas or Textual / Visual
Components
Endorses What is Significant
Establish Common Understandings or Consensus
ÒPlatformingÓ - Foundation for Inquiry
Consolidate Information
Review - Recap - Summarize
Comprehension of Literal Details
Privilege Text Over Readers
Process Questions
Trying to understand studentsÕ contemplation or thought
processes
Concerned with Cognitive Processes
Thinking ÒAudit TrailÓ
What connections, insights, comparisons did you make as you
were reading the text?
How did you generate your ideas?
What ideas, comments, evidence from the text influenced your
thinking?
Procedural Questions
Reminds students of established procedures and expectations.
Invites students to share experiences and ideas.
Helps facilitate the discussion
When we are discussing a text, what helps us listen to each
other better?
When the teacher is reading a book aloud, what do we do with
our post-its on our clipboards, and how do we share ideas?
How do we gain access to the discussion?
Inquiry Questions
Range of Acceptable Answers
Centripetal Forces
Concerned with Possibilities, not Correctness
Text as Point of Departure, Not End
Interested in Multiple Perspectives
ÒHigher OrderÓ Questions
Beyond Literal Recall and Summary
Inquiry Question Examples:
Noticings:
What are your initial impressions?
What caught your attention?
What seemed unique, peculiar?
Generate Meaning:
What might these noticings mean?
How does this connect with what you know?
What other meanings are possible?
Co-Elaboration:
Have you considered otherÕs ideas?
How do alternative interpretations affect your ideas?
What do these ideas mean for your future reading?
Using Questions More Effectively
Teachers should stop asking questions they know the answers
to all the time (Integrity).
Teachers Should ask More Questions in Response to StudentsÕ
Ideas Than In Front of Them.
Questions should allow for an acceptable range of answers,
possibilities or interpretations
Questions should provide opportunities for students to
Confirm or Deny, Clarify & Extend.
Questions MUST go beyond literal recall and Request Evidence
of Interpretive Processes & Interpretations.
Students should begin asking more questions.
ÒTell Me MoreÓ is Better ThanÒWhy?Ó
Developing StudentsÕ Interpretive Repertoires
NystrandÕs Principles
Ethos of Involvement - Community
Ability to Listen, Really Listen
Acknowledge Interpersonal Relationships and Interactions
Contingency - Take Students Seriously
Uptake - Take Up from What Has Been Offered
Ask Better Questions
Critical Junctures
ÒCritical JunctureÓ indicates more than one possible way to
proceed
Recognizing possibilities in Discussions
Teachable / Discussable Moment
Exploiting an Opportunity for Learning
Teacher responses influence subsequent discussions, topics,
responses
Making Instructional Decisions ÒIn the FoamÓ
Based on Objectives, Purposes for the Lesson or Discussion -
Interpretive Merit
Pacing Vs. Wandering
Pacing
Coverage
Timing - Allocated for Relevancy
Predetermined Destination
Moving Lesson Forward
Wandering (Wondering)
Depth
Timing - Allocated for Possibility
Destination Unknown
Lengthens Lesson & Discussions
Recognizing Possibilities
Attentive , Sensitive Listening
Extensive Knowledge of Literature, Literary Theories and
Text Under Consideration
Shifting Purpose for Discussion from Recitation to Dialogue
Willing to Relinquish Intellectual Control
ÒInteractionalityÓ is
the focus
Techniques for Improving Classroom Discussions
Setting Expectations for Discussions
Full Disclosure Teaching
Discussions are In Service of Meaning
Become Aware of Dialogue Blockers
Respectful Listening and Response
Challenge without Attack
Physical Arrangements for Listening
Setting the Stage for Thinking
The Goal is
I-R-R-R-R-R
Discussion Techniques
Raising Hands No Longer Necessary to Enter Discussion -
ÒGetting the FloorÓ
Student Regulation of Turns
1st Person Plural - Reciprocal Objectives
Notetaking - Post-Its - Coding
Teacher Gaze - Handing Off
Exploratory Pausing (Wait Time)
Call and Response - Hallelujah
First we Thought, Now we Think - Insight
Platforming
Connect new information to foundation
Sets stage for further discussion
Brief review of previous experiences
Putting things in context
Recapping ideas in new language
Summarizing with the goal of moving forward, not backwards
Organize new information - Building Metaphors
Three Part List
Three (3) related points in a row
Builds tension for third point
Makes speech more cohesive
Verbal outlining
Third point is most important
Uptake
Begins with Attentive Listening
Calling Attention to what has been offered
Extending - Clarifying
Taking up from where studentsÕ response leave off
Naming Specific Contributions
Generalizing Across Contexts / Texts
Can be challenging to some students
Teacher Knowledge is KEY
Re-Voicing
Paraphrase ÒPlusÓ
Reformulating StudentsÕ Responses
Re-Considering What has been Offered
Validates / Endorses Student Input
Equalizes Participation - Empowering
Use of Laminator verbs (so are you saying?, feeling?,
thinking?, questioning?)
Link Participants to Propositions
Some Considerations
Students make More Interpretive Moves When Teachers Do Them
in Advance.
Moving FROM Recall and Noticing TO Interpretation and
Critique through Talk is Key.
Students rely on teacher statements and questions for
interpretive strategies, theoretical perspectives, and how to talk about texts.
Teacher talk signals emphasis, calls attention to
significant ideas, and signals who is comprehending.
Relevancy is Determined by Alignment to Lesson and Learning
Objectives (Interpretive Merit).
James Britton
ÒTalk is the Ocean on which all Learning FloatsÓ
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Talk and
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